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Re: [H] Combos and complexes

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. <jroz@ihug.co.nz>
To: homeopathy <homeopathy@homeolist.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 22, 2011 11:44 pm
Subject: Re: [H] Combos and complexes



Basically it is very simple, but long and tedious: you read the "small"
emedies and you learn them from the homeopathic MM, proved or not, from the
erbal MM, the naturopathic MM, the TCM ones, the Ayurvedic ones, etc, then
ou have a complete picture.
An example is what I have done in my book Dynamic Gemmotherapy (due to be
evised when I have time BTW).

Too potent.....yes, those are, at least in my personal experience, "violent"
emedies and the changes they cause, even towards cure, might be so strong
hat they aggravate the patient, something I do not wish to do at all in
his case....or others.

Omentum: congratulations! You saw that organ that is missed by many
ractitioners; it has all (and more) metabolic issues you are talking about
lus has the nasty habit of immobilising abdominal organs....unfortunately,
o "specific" remedies but one simple treatment: visceral manipulation......
ut this is an hands on learning experience.

Joe.

 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com

-------Original Message-------

From: Irene de Villiers
Date: 23/12/2011 3:16:51 p.m.
To: homeo list
Subject: Re: [H] Combos and complexes

On Dec 22, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. Wrote:

> If I still had some hair on my head, they would stand straight right now,
n
> horror and awe at reading the total lack of knowledge and misunderstanding

about the real, scientific, way to use complex remedies.
>


Dear Joe,

I don't think anyone was considering the use of complex remedies in the way
ou mean - where they are devised specifically in response to the symptoms
nd needs of a specific patient, and using the known features of each remedy

Probably you are one of the few experts in knowing how to do this well.
I think all the discussion so far here, has been concerning the commercially
vailable mixtures that you so correctly describe here as allopathy - and
heir misnaming as homeopathy.

It would be a much more interesting discussion to learn more about how to
orrectly use one or more remedies in the pathology-oriented approach to
uit a patient, that you are talking about, where the selected remedies
hether herbal, mineral, etc or potentized, are of known activity and are
elected to help suitably in the patient with the presenting pathology.

I'm currently trying to do some of that - matching local symptoms to helpful
emedies - and not succeeding very well yet. But I need to get on top of it
n order to clear the way for a main homeopathic remedy to be able to work
roperly.

I think my first experience with it was in 2000 when I needed support for
eart symptoms in a more direct way, and not only a single homeopathic
emedy to effect longterm heart healing. It was a simple example: I used
awthorn berry herb to strengthen the heart, building from 2 caps to 8 caps
day and continued that heart support till the simillimum homeopathic
emedy could effect longterm healing about six months later - and then I
apered off the herb. That herbal support was not enough initially for daily
eeds, if I needed to move much. I also needed Quebracho 4C before each
ncidence of exertion (exertion being crossing a room to another chair for
xample), as that gave me the extra short burst needed for that activity to
ccur.
So my "complex" was then hawthorn berry, Quebracho and a simillimum, dosed
ndividually as needed. But all three components were specific to my
articular needs and chosen based on their known action.

> The complexist approach is different: first it is a clinical,
> pathology-oriented approach, aimed at treating a state of disease in a
> system or organ of a patient, using the symptoms, signs and modalities
> developed by that system/organ and not relating to "totality" of the
atient.

It's a very important need to meet too.
A single homeopathic remedy can not do everything needed in a case no matter
ow well matched it is. It needs nutrition, lifestyle, supplements, and
ften local pathology support.
I like the example you gave. And I like the ideas available in your book on
rganotherapy, Drainage Detoxification - which is where I am currently
tuck" with a case.

It seems to me that there is another organ to be addressed besides the usual
nes listed: The omentum. It is not just a fat collection organ; it turns
ut it is metabolically very active tissue, and can have a very large
nfluence on all other organs if riled up during treatment, as it produces
luco-corticoids, which in turn trigger adrenaline and insulin with their
ffects, affect aldosterone, deplete electrolytes, and generally make a
oyal mess of the body's metabolic chances of homeostasis.
As a secondary effect, it will deposit edema inches thick, if more toxin is
eleased than can be handled immediately, which in turn has more far
eaching effects.
ALL these issues are essential to handle and will NOT be handled by the
imillimum remedy - which if anything will release toxins from fat tissue -
ut not automatically usher them out of the system.
So the omentum organ (and other organs) absolutely need other options in
lace to manage events during handling of pathology and working towards
ealthy organs.

As to the omentum as an organ in this regard:
(especially in an abdominally overweight individual). Perhaps the management
f its reduction has to be handled by concentrating on excretory organs,
reating it as if it is an inert toxin storage system like ordinary fat
issue, but I suspect that will fail. Somehow it needs selection of remedies
or a complex that take into account the glucocorticoids produced, *and* the
ffects of those on multiple other systems *and* the toxins released from
he fatty tissue. It's an awful lot that is going to need handling all at
nce, with each dose of toxin releasing simillimum.

I've been reading the PubMed website (National Library of Medicine) to look
or herbs or other substances proven to have an effect that may be useful
or omentum "organotherapy, detox and drainage". (ODD for short). It's a
low process, but i find it encouraging that some of this research is now
eing listed at PubMed. [Much of it is from India or Russia that I have
ound so far - more open minded places in terms of investigating natural
ubstances and their abilities, than USA.]

My hope is that as the omentum tends to misbehave metabolically in a way
hat throws a spanner in the works during any attempt at homeopathy, it
ould be nice to find some remedies that address its metabolic misbehavior
spects.

Does this "omentum organ health" approach fit with the kind of use of
omplexes that you are referring to? "Taking the case" of the omentum and
hat it is doing, and working to remedy that somehow, with however many
tems are needed to effect the needed results?

> I eliminated the animal remedies (snakes...) as
> being too potent for him right now

Too potent? Please expand on this concept?
Would you expect a snake remedy to aggravate regardless of potency or dose
ilution or?

> That is how you create a combo/complex remedy, that is how you use
ultiple
> remedies at the same time.
>
> What is not acceptable for practitioners is to throw into the same bottle
> remedies that vaguely related to a few symptoms and hope for the best.

Well said. If I had any to spare, I'd lend you some hair to put back down
gain:-)

>
> Have a Happy New Year and a Merry Hanukkah.

Thank you - to you the same.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."






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