the first combos were made by the early homeopaths, for the use of their
patients while the homeopath was unavailable, e.g. traveling. Those combos
were based on the patients' known histories.
But to John, for e.g., that makes no difference at all, because the moment
you have more than one remedy being given at a time, you are into "not
homeopathy" and you are into having (according to him) not the faintest
idea of how any of theincluded remedies will function. Because of the
presence of the others...
Which I find to be a rather daring denial of the decades and century of
experience...
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Irene de Villiers
<furryboots@icehouse.net>wrote:
>
> On Dec 22, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. wrote:
>
> > If I still had some hair on my head, they would stand straight right
> now, in
> > horror and awe at reading the total lack of knowledge and
> misunderstanding
> > about the real, scientific, way to use complex remedies.
> >
>
>
> Dear Joe,
>
> I don't think anyone was considering the use of complex remedies in the
> way you mean - where they are devised specifically in response to the
> symptoms and needs of a specific patient, and using the known features of
> each remedy.
> Probably you are one of the few experts in knowing how to do this well.
> I think all the discussion so far here, has been concerning the
> commercially available mixtures that you so correctly describe here as
> allopathy - and their misnaming as homeopathy.
>
> It would be a much more interesting discussion to learn more about how to
> correctly use one or more remedies in the pathology-oriented approach to
> suit a patient, that you are talking about, where the selected remedies
> whether herbal, mineral, etc or potentized, are of known activity and are
> selected to help suitably in the patient with the presenting pathology.
>
> I'm currently trying to do some of that - matching local symptoms to
> helpful remedies - and not succeeding very well yet. But I need to get on
> top of it in order to clear the way for a main homeopathic remedy to be
> able to work properly.
>
> I think my first experience with it was in 2000 when I needed support for
> heart symptoms in a more direct way, and not only a single homeopathic
> remedy to effect longterm heart healing. It was a simple example: I used
> hawthorn berry herb to strengthen the heart, building from 2 caps to 8 caps
> a day and continued that heart support till the simillimum homeopathic
> remedy could effect longterm healing about six months later - and then I
> tapered off the herb. That herbal support was not enough initially for
> daily needs, if I needed to move much. I also needed Quebracho 4C before
> each incidence of exertion (exertion being crossing a room to another chair
> for example), as that gave me the extra short burst needed for that
> activity to occur.
> So my "complex" was then hawthorn berry, Quebracho and a simillimum, dosed
> individually as needed. But all three components were specific to my
> particular needs and chosen based on their known action.
>
> > The complexist approach is different: first it is a clinical,
> > pathology-oriented approach, aimed at treating a state of disease in a
> > system or organ of a patient, using the symptoms, signs and modalities
> > developed by that system/organ and not relating to "totality" of the
> patient.
>
> It's a very important need to meet too.
> A single homeopathic remedy can not do everything needed in a case no
> matter how well matched it is. It needs nutrition, lifestyle, supplements,
> and often local pathology support.
> I like the example you gave. And I like the ideas available in your book
> on Organotherapy, Drainage Detoxification - which is where I am currently
> "stuck" with a case.
>
> It seems to me that there is another organ to be addressed besides the
> usual ones listed: The omentum. It is not just a fat collection organ; it
> turns out it is metabolically very active tissue, and can have a very large
> influence on all other organs if riled up during treatment, as it produces
> gluco-corticoids, which in turn trigger adrenaline and insulin with their
> effects, affect aldosterone, deplete electrolytes, and generally make a
> royal mess of the body's metabolic chances of homeostasis.
> As a secondary effect, it will deposit edema inches thick, if more
> toxin is released than can be handled immediately, which in turn has more
> far reaching effects.
> ALL these issues are essential to handle and will NOT be handled by the
> simillimum remedy - which if anything will release toxins from fat tissue -
> but not automatically usher them out of the system.
> So the omentum organ (and other organs) absolutely need other options in
> place to manage events during handling of pathology and working towards
> healthy organs.
>
> As to the omentum as an organ in this regard:
> (especially in an abdominally overweight individual). Perhaps the
> management of its reduction has to be handled by concentrating on excretory
> organs, treating it as if it is an inert toxin storage system like ordinary
> fat tissue, but I suspect that will fail. Somehow it needs selection of
> remedies for a complex that take into account the glucocorticoids produced,
> *and* the effects of those on multiple other systems *and* the toxins
> released from the fatty tissue. It's an awful lot that is going to need
> handling all at once, with each dose of toxin releasing simillimum.
>
> I've been reading the PubMed website (National Library of Medicine) to
> look for herbs or other substances proven to have an effect that may be
> useful for omentum "organotherapy, detox and drainage". (ODD for short).
> It's a slow process, but i find it encouraging that some of this research
> is now being listed at PubMed. [Much of it is from India or Russia that I
> have found so far - more open minded places in terms of investigating
> natural substances and their abilities, than USA.]
>
> My hope is that as the omentum tends to misbehave metabolically in a way
> that throws a spanner in the works during any attempt at homeopathy, it
> would be nice to find some remedies that address its metabolic misbehavior
> aspects.
>
> Does this "omentum organ health" approach fit with the kind of use of
> complexes that you are referring to? "Taking the case" of the omentum and
> what it is doing, and working to remedy that somehow, with however many
> items are needed to effect the needed results?
>
> > I eliminated the animal remedies (snakes...) as
> > being too potent for him right now
>
> Too potent? Please expand on this concept?
> Would you expect a snake remedy to aggravate regardless of potency or dose
> dilution or?
>
> > That is how you create a combo/complex remedy, that is how you use
> multiple
> > remedies at the same time.
> >
> > What is not acceptable for practitioners is to throw into the same bottle
> > remedies that vaguely related to a few symptoms and hope for the best.
>
> Well said. If I had any to spare, I'd lend you some hair to put back down
> again:-)
>
> >
> > Have a Happy New Year and a Merry Hanukkah.
>
> Thank you - to you the same.
>
> Namaste,
> Irene
> --
> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
> "Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
>
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