Montag, 19. Dezember 2011

Re: [H] Combos vs. Singles

Of course Rosemary's prescription was still not made on a homoeopathic
basis! If you recall, Shannon, a homoeopathic prescription requires
knowledge of the effects of the medicine prescribed.

While I'm about it: Irene's point is not that the symptoms of the patient
may be dissimilar to those of the medicine even when those of the medicine
are similar to those of the patient. Her point is that you have, as usual,
missed the big picture entirely in jumping onto a medicine that is similar
to a single symptom of the patient -- then mixing it with other medicines
similar to that single symptom -- presuming they'll all behave nicely
together -- and prescribing this unknown concoction, on the flimsy excuse
that if together these, let us say, anti-wart medicines remove the warts,
then it must be because one chose itself to act homoeopathically upon the
patient.

The absurdity in this kind of thinking pales in comparison with the
irresponsibility of promoting it as having some connection with
homoeopathy. You devalue the patient when you ignore (a) her symptoms, (b)
the outcome of treating her so outrageously, (c) your responsibility for
being able to assess and respond correctly to that outcome. You would
never in a million years practise this slipshod stuff yourself, you say;
yet you jump around defending it, and every other absurdity; promoting it,
year after year, both to students and in public; attaching yourself to it
with the same unfounded confidence that inflicts the anti-homoeopathy
monsters; and incidentally giving them all the basis they could want for
concluding that homoeopaths really are nutters.

To return to your question to Irene and nail the answer to the door: yes,
possibly every polypath begins a search for a remedy for the patient's
symptoms. The point is that settling for a single symptom and trusting to
the ability of a mixture -- or even of a single medicine -- to remove that
symptom has nothing in common with the homoeopathic method. Oh, yes,
that's right: they both prefer something "similar". Well, it happens that
homoeopathy requires similarity not to a symptom but to the entirety of the
case. That does not mean that the medicine must match every symptom; it
does mean that it should be the best match available. You can absolutely
guarantee failure in that quest by prescribing a mixture, and -- as you've
had pointed out to you before -- you can't prescribe the mixture on a
homoeopathic basis, because you don't know (and, as it happens, can't ever
know!) the nature of the derangement it causes in the healthy.

Kind regards,

John

On 20 December 2011 02:45, Shannon Nelson <shannonnelson@tds.net> wrote:

>
> On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:01 AM, John Harvey wrote:
>
> > Good point. It's always the patient who's overlooked in this kind of
> > prescribing (setting aside something like Rosemary's experience, in
> > which
> > the effort had been made to find a single medicine).
>
> Ummmmmm......... you're bringing a heckuva lot of assumptions to this
> statement!
> Which, again, are muddying the waters by mixing multiple issues that
> are not necessarily that related to the core questions.
>
> So in Rosemary's case it was still not-homeopathy, because there were
> other remedies there,
> Or was it homeopathy because she had actually done the work to
> properly identify the needed remedy?
>
>
>
> >
> > John
> >
> > On 20 December 2011 01:31, Irene de Villiers
> > <furryboots@icehouse.net>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:32 AM, Shannon Nelson wrote:
> >>
> >>> But as to the law of similars, that will have been used to arrive at
> >>> the *choices* of remedies included.
> >>
> >> Not possible....
> >> Law of Similars says the symptoms of the PATIENT must be similar to
> >> the
> >> symptoms of the remedy.
> >>
> >> With a mix, there is no patient - hence no law of similars involved.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> > 2008.
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